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When HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. sat down with CNN anchor Dana Bash on Sunday's "State of the Union," he came armed with facts — and more than a little awareness of exactly who he was talking to.
The exchange turned volcanic when Bash pressed Kennedy on whether he accepted personal responsibility for the United States recording its highest measles case count in 35 years. The CDC confirmed this week that 2,318 cases have been reported across 45 states through July 23 — the worst figure since 1991. Kennedy refused to play along. He pointed out that Mexico's per-capita measles rate is 15 times worse than America's, Canada's is four times worse, and Europe fares even more poorly. He noted that the communities most affected — including Mennonite and other religious populations in Virginia and Pennsylvania — have historically refused vaccines entirely and "haven't vaccinated since 1796." Most pointedly, Kennedy laid blame for plummeting childhood vaccination rates squarely on COVID-era public health messaging. "Anthony Fauci's own diaries," Kennedy told Bash, show that lockdowns caused millions of parents to miss routine MMR appointments for their children — the very children now at risk.
That's when the interview hit its flashpoint. Bash invoked "study after study" and the National Academy of Sciences in defense of the vaccine-autism consensus. Kennedy fired back: "Dana, you probably don't understand this because you're not a scientist." Bash snapped: "Well you're not either!" Kennedy replied coolly: "I know you're flustered now."
What neither Bash nor CNN acknowledged on air is the context that makes her role as interrogator deeply compromised. Just days ago, Sen. Rand Paul released portions of Anthony Fauci's personal diary entries, which revealed that CNN's Dana Bash had privately texted Fauci supportive messages during the pandemic — including one pointing out a Vanity Fair headline mocking a Fauci critic. As The Federalist reported this week, Fauci apparently "relished the tongue baths so much that he memorialized them in his diary," documenting which journalists praised him and "apparently sought his approval." Bash was among them. The same anchor who on Sunday demanded Kennedy answer for measles was, during COVID, sending the architect of the lockdown regime cheerful private notes.
Kennedy went out of his way to close the interview clearly: "Parents should get their children vaccinated for measles. A measles vaccine is effective. It stops measles in about 97 percent of cases. So, people should get vaccinated." That is not the statement of a reckless anti-vaxxer. It is the statement of a public health official who also insists on accountability for the institutional failures — lockdowns, missed appointments, eroded public trust — that got America here in the first place.
Meanwhile, the political pressure on Kennedy is only intensifying. Breitbart reported last week that President Trump has been steering conversations with his HHS Secretary back to the question of childhood vaccine reduction and the alleged vaccine-autism link — reportedly asking Kennedy in May "why he wasn't doing more" on the issue, even as Kennedy had been urged to soften his messaging ahead of midterm elections. That tension is not going away.
What Sunday's CNN exchange actually revealed is the rotted core of the legacy media's credibility on public health. Dana Bash spent two years as a private cheerleader for Anthony Fauci while presenting herself as a neutral journalist. She is now demanding accountability from the man cleaning up Fauci's mess. The American public deserves to know the difference.
The most upsetting part of this interview isn't Dana Bash's obvious political agenda and bias, it's RFK Jr.'s promoting the MMR vaccine - which has done untold harm to millions. RFK Jr. isn't stupid, so there must be a reason why he would be promoting such a dangerous drug that's completely unnecessary. Ten minutes of research on the truth about measles will prove that.
The truth is that the MMR vaccine saves lives! Maybe the reason for autism is all the Teflon in people’s bloodstream or all the pollutants in the air……RFK Jr was completely wrong about the amount of measles in other countries